r/StableDiffusion Sep 11 '22 Silver 1 Helpful 1 Burning Cash 1

A better (?) way of doing img2img by finding the noise which reconstructs the original image Img2Img

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u/Aqwis Sep 11 '22 edited Sep 11 '22 Silver

I’ve made quite a few attempts at editing existing pictures with img2img. However, at low strengths the pictures tend to be modified too little, while at high strengths the picture is modified in undesired ways. /u/bloc97 posted here about a better way of doing img2img that would allow for more precise editing of existing pictures – by finding the noise that will cause SD to reconstruct the original image.

I made a quick attempt at reversing the k_euler sampler, and ended up with the code I posted in a reply to the post by bloc97 linked above. I’ve refined the code a bit and posted it on GitHub here:

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If image is a PIL image and model is a LatentDiffusion object, then find_noise_for_image can be called like this:

noise_out = find_noise_for_image(model, image, 'Some prompt that accurately describes the image', steps=50, cond_scale=1.0)

The output noise tensor can then be used for image generation by using it as a “fixed code” (to use a term from the original SD scripts) – in other words, instead of generating a random noise tensor (and possibly adding that noise tensor to an image for img2img), you use the noise tensor generated by find_noise_for_image_model.

This method isn’t perfect – deviate too much from the prompt used when generating the noise tensor, and the generated images are going to start differing from the original image in unexpected ways. Some experimentation with the different parameters and making the prompt precise enough will probably be necessary to get this working. Still, for altering existing images in particular ways I’ve had way more success with this method than with standard img2img. I have yet to combine this with bloc97’s Prompt-to-Prompt Image Editing, but I’m guessing the combination will give even more control.

All suggestions for improvements/fixes are highly appreciated. I still have no idea what the best setting of cond_scale, for example, and in general this is just a hack that I made without reading any of the theory on this topic.

Edit: By the way, the original image used in the example is from here and is the output of one of those old "this person does not exist" networks, I believe. I've tried it on other photos (including of myself :), so this works for "real" pictures as well. The prompt that I used when generating the noise tensor for this was "Photo of a smiling woman with brown hair".


u/GuavaDull8974 Sep 11 '22

This is spectacular! I made feature request for it already on webui, you think you can produce actualy working comit for it ?



u/hefeglass Sep 12 '22

Its been implemented by AUTOMATIC1111 but I cant seem to figure out how to use it. Anyone able to explain? I am trying to use the alternate img2img script.


u/jonesaid Sep 12 '22

You go to the img2img tab, select the img2img alternative test in the scripts dropdown, put in an "original prompt" that describes the input image, and whatever you want to change in the regular prompt, CFG 2, Decode CFG 2, Decode steps 50, Euler sampler, upload an image, and click generate.


u/Plopdopdoop Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 14 '22

So when I try those settings the output isn't anything close, like not even recognizable objects in the resulting image (original being 'picture of man wearing a read shirt').


u/jonesaid Sep 13 '22

It seems to be very sensitive to decode cfg and decode steps. I use decode cfg at about 2, and decode steps from 35-50. Make sure regular cfg is about 2 too.


u/BeanieBytes Sep 14 '22

I'm also getting this issue. does my denoising strength need to be altered?


u/Breadisgood4eat Sep 14 '22

I had an older install and just copied this new repo over the top and was getting the same issue. I reinstalled from scratch and now it's working.


u/2legsakimbo Sep 13 '22

hhmm that alternative test isnt showing up. even though i just forced updated by deleting verv and repositary folders.

I must have missed a step


u/tobboss1337 Sep 13 '22

You just deleted the additional python repos and environment. So you returned to the state of initial downloading but not the newest version. Did you pull the changes from Automatic's repo?


u/2legsakimbo Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

no, thank you for letting me know that i have to do that.


u/feelosofee Sep 16 '22

What about denoising strength? Also, Euler or Euler_a ?


u/jonesaid Sep 16 '22

Euler, denoising strength around 0.2


u/daniel Mar 28 '23

My img2img seems to oversaturate the resulting image with these settings. Have you ever run into that? I saw someone on discord with a similar problem, but I haven't seen a solution.


u/redboundary Sep 11 '22

Isn't it the same as setting "masked content" to original in the img2img settings?


u/animemosquito Sep 11 '22

no, this is finding which "seed" basically would lead to SD generating the original image, so that you are able to modify it in less destructive ways.


u/MattRix Sep 11 '22

yep exactly! Though to be somewhat pedantic it’s not the seed, it’s the noise itself.


u/animemosquito Sep 11 '22

Yeah that's a good distinction to make, I'm trying to make it accessible and less complicated, but it's important to make the distinction that the seed is what is used to produce the initial noise, which is used to diffuse / iterate on to get to a final product


u/Trainraider Sep 12 '22

It's a really important distinction because there's a lot more potential entropy in the noise than in the seed. There may be a noise pattern that results in the image, but there probably isn't a seed that makes that specific noise pattern.


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u/ldb477 Sep 14 '22

That’s at least double


u/Lirezh Sep 15 '22

he regular

There might be countless noise patterns in math but not in reality. The vast majority of those patterns will certainly result in identical result images which is also true for the 2^32 seed variations.
A lot of them are probably going to show the same result.


u/almark Sep 12 '22

this means we can keep the subject we like and alter it, move the model, poses, different things in the photo.


u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

... make perfecto hands, I'd hazard a guess


u/almark Sep 12 '22

hands are floppy things - laughs

I still have nightmares from first glance in SD.


u/ImeniSottoITreni Sep 12 '22

at noise tensor to an image for im

Isn't this the repo with outpainting? Why merge it here and not in the original webui repo?


u/AUTOMATIC1111 Sep 12 '22

That is the original web ui repo.